tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311256008594820933.post7403127756601368531..comments2023-08-09T07:42:12.438-04:00Comments on How to recover lost marbles: All Too HumanLostMarbleshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07123440130769897997noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311256008594820933.post-23069052505035663882009-07-04T01:28:54.860-04:002009-07-04T01:28:54.860-04:00I'm not going to argue the point of love too m...I'm not going to argue the point of love too much because that's something that's entirely too difficult to pin down (I mean, what is love?--cue meme). <br /><br />I do actually believe that Sharon feels. It might be a bit of a stretch, but the look of pure hurt and confusion that she gives as she dies makes it hard for me to believe that she's not feeling anything. She's also clearly stated to "feel" all the same things Myung feels like conflict, hurt, and IMO love. The way she expresses that is entirely fucked up and doesn't look like anything a functional adult would do to deal with these feelings. <br /><br />The main difference between Myung, a human, and Sharon, and AI, is that Sharon takes these feeling and instead of being torn about fulfilling them without hurting anyone she ignores the autonomy of other people's minds and does what she wants and what she assumes they want. She doesn't see that there is a difference between what she wants and what other people want.LostMarbleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07123440130769897997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311256008594820933.post-22847887005811847972009-07-02T18:11:57.150-04:002009-07-02T18:11:57.150-04:00I can't believe I missed this post. Google Rea...I can't believe I missed this post. Google Reader owes me big time.<br /><br />You certainly make a case for the nuances in Sharon Apple. I for one welcome indulgent meaning-making from the reading of the subject (especially if it's Macross).<br /><br />Firstly, the awesome thing about Basara singing to the space whale isn't his singing, it's the freaking whale singing along with him. EPIC LULZ.<br /><br />Sharon Apple does <i>not</i> love. The emotion 'chip' installed in her (illegally) gives her access to emotional <b>needs</b>. Note that she doesn't feel anger or jealousy or joy. She has the range only to experience <i>desire</i> and <i>gratification</i>. Her need to gratify her perception that Isamu needs to live on the edge, is a function of the desire/gratification dynamic. Othierwise, there's no real joy or happiness involved. Certainly there is no love.<br /><br />So, AI = Bad. This continues with Grace who relates to music as programs to exploit others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311256008594820933.post-84797823140336763932009-06-08T08:33:01.409-04:002009-06-08T08:33:01.409-04:00You know, I'm not terribly keen on the Evil AI...You know, I'm not terribly keen on the Evil AI trope either, but you raise an interesting point about Sharon Apple. It's not <i>in</i>humanity that's the problem; it's <i>incomplete</i> humanity. I like it.Learn Hexadecimalnoreply@blogger.com